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What would you like to see about "Situation"
Major_Goose
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 09:21 AM UTC
Taking over the "Situation" Forum is kinda filling a dream for me .

I have been dioraming for more than 25 years and convetrtin diorama techniques to tiny areas as the figure bases was already a challenge.

So sharing with other miniature lovers ideas and Techniques , and also scenarios and setup strategy is much much important to increase all peoples creativity.

The more we can see , the more we will know, and be inspired.

In this topic what we will try to do , is to "hear the whistle" of all members regarding what they would like to see in SBS articles, presentation.

Everyone of you can suggest specific topics and techniques parts , like "water", "snow" "rocks" desert" "forest" or even more complicated and completed thoughts .

I have my ideas on some SBS articles , like Begginers, Intermidiate Advanced , Super Advanced , etc making bases with general forming of a base , setup, and performing using the needed techniques on each case.

But i also have thoughts on presentation articles for base materials, natural, commercial , e.t.c.


So lets hear , what you need to see, what you like to know, and also what you would like to share, if you think you wouldnt mind setting an sbs with our help ....

Waiting for your calls guys ..........


Thanks

Costas
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 01:43 PM UTC
Hi, Costas. I would like to see SBSs and features on doing larger scale dios/vignettes, like 1/16. How to scratch accessories, build trees, plants, flowers, etc. In the past (on Armorama) a lot was aimed at the 1/35 modeller, and also there are less commercial accessories available in larger scale, so scratch building is imprtant.

Thanks.
Major_Goose
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 02:25 PM UTC
David Hi . The issue youre askingfor is really some thing to be noticed.

In general terms i could say that knowing a technique for 1/32 - that is 54mm and adjusting the size rescaling for 1:16 you can come to the result you need .

We will be lloking for people interested in many things and we will start laying them out !!!!
Tarok
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 03:04 PM UTC
Just to very briefly expand on what Costas and I are looking for...

The idea is that the Situation DG will do SBS's on various groundwork (for figures) techniques. Each one will probably focus on a specific technique and be targetted at a particular skill level.

Furthermore, it will probably mostly be done in 54mm, as this tends to be a more common scale. This however will not prevent anyone from up (or down) scaling the techniques discussed in order to apply them to their preferred scale. Remember, it's the technique we're interested in

So, what do we need from you?

Well, what technique do you folks feel you need work on? What technique do you want to learn? Which technique has always seemed to daunting?

Well, for me, it's running water. Things like waterfalls and rivers...

So, Costas my friend, how about a "Running water for dummies" SBS? :-)

Rudi
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 03:28 PM UTC
as you have asked Costas I have just done a starter with how I am building my next base so I can receive feedback and advice on how I can improve and also some ideas I also use that come from my 19 years of model railroading
Ian
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 04:49 PM UTC
Costas: Your idea for groundwork/base sbs' for beginner, advanced etc. is a great idea. Personally, I would very much like to see sbs' on how to make simple groundwork (Beginners). Advanced groundwork, Costas style, is way out of my league. Hope to learn someday though.

It would be great to see how a groundwork novice , could spice up some of the figure bases, that comes with most figures. Even a Pegaso base could do with a little spice.

Buildings, not dio buildings, but those small sections of buildings, for figure vignettes. Sbs' on scratch building, painting and weathering of these, would be more than welcome.

Jesper
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Posted: Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 11:06 PM UTC
OK we stareted nicely . But we need more feedback so we can have a good sample of desires !!!
Removed by original poster on 07/12/06 - 21:18:19 (GMT).
Major_Goose
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Posted: Friday, June 23, 2006 - 05:02 PM UTC
Desire recorded and will be in process!!!!!

Sea weed is my favorite !!!
Wendy
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Posted: Friday, June 23, 2006 - 07:03 PM UTC
Anything and everything covered in this topic would be appreciated. I'm happy to learn.

Specifically, grass and water (running and pooled) would be nice to read about, as well some tips about proper layout. By that I mean aesthetically pleasing placement of a figure and vegetation, etc. on a base. Sorry, I've forgotten the artistic term for it.

Cheers,
Wendy
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Posted: Friday, June 23, 2006 - 08:33 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Desire recorded and will be in process!!!!!

Sea weed is my favorite !!!



Great! I have two packages of it, and I am afraid to even open it, until i know what to do with it. :-)
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Posted: Friday, June 23, 2006 - 08:45 PM UTC
Some SBS on using natuaral products for use in grounwork would be good i.e birchleaves,herbs,dried flowers etc.Maybe some new ideas might get thrown up which are new to us all.
Major_Goose
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 12:08 PM UTC
OK its going good , keep the feedback coming . The more the better !!!!
Hwa-Rang
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 03:42 PM UTC
Sbs on how to make Ice and snow.
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 05:12 PM UTC
Hi Costas,

The preservation and colouring (dying) of natural plants would be an interesting topic also.

Cheers
Claude
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 06:16 PM UTC
Different environment techniques like snow, desert, forest, jungle, etc would be nice to see.
Making article for Begginers, Advanced and Major Goose level would help to every modeler to try something new, improve skills and generally encourage to make dios. And most important as many pics as possible to ilustrate each technique.
CReading
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 10:27 PM UTC
Combining static grass and other grass products (Heki etc) and making them blend together and look real would be a nice topic.
C.
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 11:57 PM UTC
To tell you the truth i think Situation is a little to general in what it covers. Maybe you could divide Situation into smaller sub groups such as bases, ground cover, backdrops (like ARMORAMA does it). I also think scratchbuilding is a huge part of modelling and deserves its own forum completely. Im sure you could present this to the KitMaker Network administrators and become in charge of two forums if you wanted.
Just my thoughts..............
Cheers
John
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:47 AM UTC
John,

That certainly is something that Jim and I have discussed at great lengths already... but for now... baby steps, my friend, baby steps... :-)

Rudi
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:25 PM UTC
Rudi and Costas I am always willing to help if you want as I have had extensive background in MOdel railways and have helped over 14 friend with Backdrops for top quality display layouts ( even did article for Mag) I have also done a couple of professional commisions as well, also have built 4 display layouts and did 150 feet of my club layout
Ian
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2006 - 03:01 PM UTC
Dear Ian , its a sure thingthat your 's and other members help will be valuable . It will be wise since anyone would like to doan sbs that he contacts me and we organise it in the best way so, that thei dont overlapp one each other and also we can schedule their releasing .

So please feel free to do so and i will be willing to organise the "Situation" as well as bring all of my experience tothe field .

Rudi would certainly help in the settting of the releases and the scheduling

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Posted: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 05:20 AM UTC
Brother, I think a "how to" on going out in nature and finding things to be used on ground work would be wonderful for some of the newer members. cheers Kevin
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Posted: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:14 PM UTC
Kevin as you already know , youre a part of the presentations that willbe shown here. Your long time overloaded experience with groundowrk and materials make your knowledge very precious . So i am waitingyour suggestions on what you would like to present in an sbs here .

Keep Safe
yomom
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 06:48 AM UTC

I have 2 questions 4 U guys.

1. what is the best looking cheap way to make a road?

2.do MIG pigments actually do any good?

Tyler
Major_Goose
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:52 AM UTC
My dear friend i ll reply on the reverse order of the questions.


1. MIG pigments do many many goods. Iahve them and been using them for the past 4 years and theyre pretty unseperatable from my desk . u can do a lot of things if youtake some time to read the small leaflet that comes withthe, Either dry or wet with some alcohol or white spirit they can represent, dust, dirt,mack, dust, smoke ,anything you canimagine .

2. Making a road is easy depending on the look u expect . U can carve a comblestone road on plaster, or insulating material, on epoxy putty or other media. For a concrete road ucanuse a plaster surface ,thats been hitted with an old toothbrush while on the drying processs. There are also many texhniques like the one with lentils or other food materials representing stones . So it depends what r u looking for. If you make it a bit more specific i guess you will have the best answers .


have a nice day

Costas