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endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 08:05 AM UTC
Ladies and gentlemen of Historicus Forma!
I’ve been thinking about this bigger operation for some time and I do believe that I have the general idea ready to be revealed to you.

So here is the idea:
1. Discuss here on forum historical era’s of World History keeping in mind historical eras covered by figures available on market (if participant is ready to sculpt a figure covering era not covered by available models it would be great).
2. Gather information on who is able (and/or interested) to cover which era with his figures.
3. Distribute the work between participants so each major (or/and minor) historical era is covered by at least one participant (if there is less participants than eras more than one build would be appreciated).
4. Paint and gather information on painted figures
5. Present finished figures with basic information on historical eras.
6. Gather everything in one Feature showing our work - as many eras represented by at least one figure as possible.

Any scale, busts allowed.

This campaign that would require very serious approach from participants - dropping the project by participant who enlisted would destroy whole idea of this campaign.

As for timeline – I suggest to start as soon as we have 5-10 committed participants interested in this project. End line – well, depending on how many participants we may gather and how many eras are going to be covered – I think about at least a 6-12 months for this one counting from the moment we chose who is responsible for which era.

Here is up to date chart showing eras covered and awaiting their representation - please consider it while chosing your figure:


What do you think about this idea?
611_sqd
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 05:49 AM UTC
In my remaining stash I have a Wild West Undertaker and the Red Baron. I am happy to do either of them if they fit.
Blade26
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Kozani, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 08:47 AM UTC
I also have two figures in my stash that i started once but never finished. It's a figure from Leonidas from the 300 movie and a figure of Theodoros Kolokotronis of the Hellenic revolution in 1821. I can enlist with these two if u dont mind that i i allready painted o few basic colours on them ( the flesh and the cape of Leonidas)
Magpie
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 11:17 AM UTC
I am certainly interested. I don't mind which era but I have had my eye on a Boudicea figure (in honour of my wife) for some time now.

I think I'd enjoy the exercise of looking a bit closer into that period of history.
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 09:08 PM UTC
Great to see that you are interested!

Please see the chart of eras (I’ve marked centuries we are able to cover, also eras and sub-eras – let’s fill as many as we can!)
chart moved to first post
As you can see we are still missing participants ready to support us with:
Bronze Age - Sumerian (Mesopotamia), Egyptian, Minoan, Arkadian, Babylonian, Mycean, Chinese Xia and Shang Dynasty figures;
Iron Age (early) - Olmec, Greek, Etruscan, Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, Carthaginian, Hebrew, Early Rome and Chinese Zhou Dynasty figures
Classical Antiquity – Carthaginian, Roman, Persian, Hellenistic Greek, Persian, Han Dynasty figures,
Late Antiquity – Western and Eastern Roman, Mayan, Sassanid, Huns, Jin Dynasty figures
Early Middle Ages – Vikings, Byzantine, Frankish, Arab, Tang Dynasty figures
High Middle Ages – Norman, Byzantine, Capetian Dynasty (in France), Holy Roman Empire, Mongol, Song Dynasty in China, Khmer figures
Late Middle Ages – Plantagenet, Capetian Dynasty, Holy Roman Empire figures
Age of Discovery – Aztec, Inca, Spanish Empire, Tudors, Capetian Dynasty, Tsardom of Russia, Ottoman Empire, Munghal Empire, Qing Dynasty, Japanese Edo Period figures

…and post war eras, but I believe that XI –XXIcentury doesn’t need listing (it would also take to long… )

If anyone would like to join but his favorit era is already "taken" it is not a problem!
nico37
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Indre-et-Loire, France
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 09:12 PM UTC
Hi,

great idea, i would like to be in. It seems to be a long time campaign, no ? Especially if there isn't enough people for a one person/one era.

Can you define each era ?

I guess you ment more accurate than the distinction (as teached in french universities):
-Antiquity (from end of prehistory to Rome fall)
-Medieval (from Rome fall to Byzance fall)
-Modern (From Byzance fall to 1800)
-Contemporary(from 1800 to now).

Cheers
nico
nico37
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Indre-et-Loire, France
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 09:15 PM UTC
Ho sorry,

you answered to me at the same time i was writting, so i get the responses i needed, many thanks Andrzej !

nico
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 09:36 PM UTC
Nice to see you here Nico!
It seems we were editing our messages in the same time .

Which era would you be interested in?
I'm afraid I won't be able to paint all the figures I have in the drawer during this campaing, so if you want to double any are covered by me feel free to do so (if you want to take any uncovered era under your wings it would be even better ).

And yes - it sure will be a long-lasting one (unless we have 8-16 participants willing to buy something new and not necessarily using something from their stash)
nico37
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Indre-et-Loire, France
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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 01:41 AM UTC
Andrzej,

the problem is that there're a lot of era which could be called as my favorites......so i think i will not enlist for those which are already "owned"; there are a lot which has not be chosen yet.

So, i really like late renneissance, the XVIIth century is the one of the 3 musketeers, Richelieu and sword men duels....a lot of beautiful clothings! I can't avoid this one ! Count me with something french.

I shall also do something with early middle ages, first capetians of the Xth century are OK.

And i have to stop here for now...if not i would sign for to much , unless the campaign would come along for....years !

Cheers
nico
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 02:55 AM UTC
Great Nico! I added you to a chart.

Please see the chart (I moved it to first post) – it is not so bad already but we still need to find some more participants (I don’t think I’m able to paint all my figures just for this campaign ).
I'd prefer not to ask you to paint more than 2 figures - the bigger the plans are the louder is the noise when they collapse .

There is enough of us already to start this campaign in official manner, but I'd really would like to see more interest to avoid ending with 5 figures representing World History
steve-o
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Ohio, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 03:27 AM UTC
Cool idea!

I hope it gets more support!

I have Edward the Black Price in 54mm that needs an excuse to be built. I believe it would count as XIV Cent. (England)

Some other Non-WWII stuff I could contribute from my DML stash if needed:

Chinese Volunteer from Korea
Modern Israeli Paratrooper
Modern Russian Morotized Rifle
Modern British SAS

My other ones are already built! But, I'll keep an eye on some of these categories at a model show this weekend.

- Steve
vonHengest
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 05:04 AM UTC
Hi Andrzej, it's great to see you putting this idea out there. I think it is a wonderful idea, and it may be worthy of a 14 month running time given it's purpose.

I had to step away from modelling for a little over a year due to life circumstances, but I have been able to make a slow return to the hobby and will continue to push forward. I am very interested in being a part of this, and I will commit to this one from the beginning.

I have a few figures of Vikings and Romans, but I am also very interested in Incan and Aztec subjects as well as the Bronze Age and Iron Age. I find bright colors very interesting, so I'm open to suggestions for ancient subjects.

I think it's a good idea to wait to start this campaign until you are able to fill out the chart to your wishes.
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 09:22 PM UTC
Steve – great to have you with us! I’m very happy that you find this idea interesting. I added your figures to the chart (please let me know if I did it correctly).

Jeremy – good to see you back to the hobby! I’ve added your suggestions to the chart with question marks – I don’t know exactly what figures you want to paint so until you decide it stays this way, OK? I’ve seen very nice Ramses II 70mm figure from Ares Mythilogic you may find interesting (they also have many other figures that scream for bright colors ). Let me know as soon as you choose something for you!

And yes – I do believe that this is a campaign that should last as long as it has to, so don’t worry about timeline extensions – there probably will be many of them
vonHengest
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 07:38 AM UTC
Sounds good.

I really like the figure of Ramses II you suggested:
70mm Ramses II
I deleted the picture - there is some problem with aresmythologic's website safety.
Andrzej


It's hard to find good Aztec, Incan, or Mayan figures. I did find one that looked pretty good but I have no knowledge of the company. Young Miniatures seems to be a Korean company, and there a some nice looking figures in their product line including this one:
1/10 Aztec Warrior bust


I'm undecided on a Iron Age subject for this campaign. I've looked through several Greek, Roman, and Celtic figures but still need time to think about it.
I found these to be interesting:
54mm The Scorpion

54mm The Greek Fire

? Celtic Chief bust

54mm Vercingetorix



As for Vikings, I just need to pull one out of my stash.

I'm still open to other ideas.
Magpie
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 01:31 PM UTC
You know guys the build logs of this campaign are going to make for a wealth of information.

Just looking at some of the proposed figures there are so many different elements of armour, leather, skin tones, hair , tartan etc.

We all is said and done it will be a great reference for noobs like me, really looking forward to it kicking off and I can start learning.
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 01:24 AM UTC
Gentleman,

I’ve made several „simulations” ( ) and it seems that we’d have very nice result already if only we would all build two figures each (Scott declared 1 and so it is counted) from figures you’ve mentioned above
So if you would agree on painting two figures we would have best result with:
Aaron – undertaker and Red Baron
George – Leonidas and Greek warrior from 1821
Scott – Boudicea
Nico – Xc Capetian and XVIIc French musketeer
Steve – Black Prince and Chinese Volunteer from Korea
Jeremy – Ramses II and one of his Vikings
Andrzej – WWII soldier, Crusader, and if time permits also Montezuma.

This way we would cover: Bronze and Iron Age, Middle Ages, Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, Machine Age and Post War Era. We would lack only of Information Era.

What do you think? Please confirm if you agree and if you do I suggest starting this campaign as soon as possible and give it ~12 months running time (for now – it may be prolonged if necessary).
611_sqd
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 02:03 AM UTC
That's all fine with me.
nico37
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Indre-et-Loire, France
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 10:23 AM UTC
Hi,

that's OK for me too (Sculpting + Painting, probably at a 75 mm scale).

Cheers
nico
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 02:41 PM UTC
Sounds great!
Magpie
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 12:29 AM UTC
Sounds good to me, I guess I'd best do an Information Age figure as my second?
Blade26
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Kozani, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 01:39 AM UTC
it' ok with me also.I'm all set to start it. i also have an Achileas figure and i could make him also for the late brozne probably.the correct date of the battle of Troy is still a myth.so any era back there could suffice i think.
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:00 PM UTC
Campaign is approved. You all are welcome to enlist HERE

heren is banner:
http://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/27324/Through_the_Ages.jpg


Well, it's going to be fun
Blade26
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Kozani, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 03:59 AM UTC
Hi there guys.
Ok here we are with the start of the figures i will make for the campaign.
Theodoros Kolokotronis was a generall of the Greek Army during the revolution against the Turks in 1821. Born in Tripoli of Arcadia.After the war was over the general was imprisoned by the Greek politicians (obviusly they were feared of him) with false accusations.He died in prison in the castle of Nayplio in Greece.
For modelling purpose now, the figure is from Athens Miniatures in 54mm. I glued him up leaving only the sword apart and primed him.painted a 1st hand the kilt with humbrol white and the flesh with oils.




The second figure is Leonidas King of Sparta.You all know the story of the brave 300 in Thermopyles lead by their king to sacrifice their lives and win time for the rest of the greeks to rally against the persian invasion. The battle of Thermopyles took place in summer of 480bc and lasted 3 days untill Efialtes betrayed the Greek army and shown the secret path to the Persians.
For modelling now i used the Yedharo figure. There was no base for it so i made a fast clay base to put him up.
I used humbrol insignia red for the cape and oils for the flesh and humbrol bronze for the metal parts. this is olny a 1st hand painting and surely there will be more improvements later on.
Hope you all like it.
endrju007
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Wojewodztwo Podkarpackie, Poland
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 07:22 AM UTC
This is going to be my first figure for this campaign (54mm Andrea Miniatures):


I still have no idea which figure to pick for WWII... we'll see.
vonHengest
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 07:16 AM UTC
That is a very cool figure, I should have picked that for the Crusades campaign since it isn't covered in white